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Is it just me or do all christians think free-will is the ace of spades to any argument? i.e…?
Posted under Cure For Hemorrhoid by adminPerson A - Why does god allow hurricanes, tsunamis, and miscarriages?
Christian - Duh, free-will.
Person B - Why does god allow his creations which he loves so much to suffer for eternity in hell?
Christian - Free-Will.
Person C - How come the stories from the bible are so similar to other stories from other religions that existed long before christianity?
Christian - Free-Will.
Person D - If the bible is supposed to be god’s written word, why are there so many contradictions?
Christian - Free-Will
Madmartigan- Why does Samuel L Jackson play in so many movies? And why doesn’t god cure hemorrhoids?
Christian - Free-Will.
@ lantern: thanks for some more original answers, but…
A - how does sin cause tsunamis? I don’t get it at all. If you’re referring to the original sin bit, that is so lame. god condemned for someone else’s mistakes.
B - I have no idea what you mean.
C - No, no, no… not some stories are similar. Almost every major story of the bible is ten words off from a pre-existing story. Do the math.
And you have to be kidding, the bible survived 2000 years of persecution? 1. the bible is only like 1600 years old, and 2. for the last 1600 years, christians have been burning people and books that dissent to the bible.
D - seriously, name 1 contradiction. I could name a hundred. My biggest, from the new testament. When jesus is being crucified, there are totally different accounts of the event. 1 gospel says jesus was calm and says to god "forgive them, for they know not what they do" and "into your hands I come." In another gospel he is angry and yells "father, why have you forsaken me."
It definitely is. That, and "God did it."
Atheist: I simply don’t see evidence for a supernatural creator god.
Christian: Well then, where did all matter originally come from?
Atheist: Originally? I don’t know. No one knows.
Christian: Gotcha! (God did it)
"The Ace of Spades already"…. Lemmy of Motorhead
If you like to gamble, I tell you I’m your man
You win some, lose some, it’s - all - the same to me
The pleasure is to play, it makes no difference what you say
I don’t share your greed, the only card I need is
The Ace Of Spades
The Ace Of Spades
Playing for the high one, dancing with the devil,
Going with the flow, it’s all a game to me,
Seven or Eleven, snake eyes watching you,
Double up or quit, double stakes or split,
The Ace Of Spades
The Ace Of Spades
You know I’m born to lose, and gambling’s for fools,
But that’s the way I like it baby,
I don’t wanna live forever,
And Don’t Forget The Joker
Pushing up the ante, I know you’ve got to see me,
Read ‘em and weep, the dead man’s hand again,
I see it in your eyes, take one look and die,
The only thing you see, you know it’s gonna be,
The Ace Of Spades
The Ace Of Spades
not all of them .. i dont think humans naturally have free will .. your gonna have hemroids until u reduce the wear and tear on the pipes …
So big bang forces you to worship the devil?
it is you dude, you know it, and you know he loves you
And where are you getting this? Post links to these questions and answers.
God is nature, and free will is the Christian version of Yin Yang.
Duh, free-will.
Me - What is the possible justification behind the birth and rise of fame of James Blunt?
Christian - Free will, and he’s hot.
Me - 0_0
I laughed so hard at this, you don’t even know.
LMFAO
Whosoever will.
Matt 16:25
25For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
(KJV)
Matt 20:26
26But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
(KJV)
Mark 8:34
34And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
(KJV)
Luke 9:5
5And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.
(KJV)
Rev 22:17
17And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
(KJV)
A little pretentious , well maybe a lot pretentious. The word convoluted also comes to mind.
"Goddidit" is definitely the wild card
Nothing is free - free will.
It’s almost as bad as atheists who think "God doesn’t exist" is the ace in the hole when they don’t really know what else to say.
You are absolutely right…it is because they are decidedly-retarded.
I don’t see free-will as working in any of those situations except maybe for "Person B." You’re just putting the rest in people’s mouths.
Free will is the standard answer to the problem of evil. If you want different answers, stop asking the same question.
The only people with free will are atheists.
Lol, I think people are looking for a person with a sign pointing to his head in big bold letters saying "I am God."
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OK. Now I have to watch Free Willy again. There could be subtexts there that I missed, which you might have highlighted just now.
I don’t think that way.
There are no contradictions in the Bible, only people who need to go back and re-read it for themselves and stop listening to other people say there are.
God does not anyone to go to Hell, the Bible says that, Google it!
This place (earth) was altered and changed by God after Adam and Eve left Eden as punishment for their sin.
I don’t care about other stories and religions. Maybe that when we go that far back in time, we loose track of just when and where all this stuff originated.
Free will argument = intellectual laziness
A. Real answer: sin.
B. Real answer: unknown. The soul that sinneth SHALL DIE. The lake of fire is the SECOND DEATH. To me this seems to indicate hades is the jail Jesus was describing in the story of Lazarus, while the final judgment is not eternal suffering, but death.
C. Real answer: Some stories from the Bible may be similar, but the Bible is truly an amazing book. It has survived centuries of burning, banning, and harsh criticism. It has more original manuscripts than any other literary work in the world, has been translated into more languages than any other literary work, and has survived virtually unscathed. The Dead Sea Scrolls got people all excited because they expected to find major discrepancies between them and contemporary versions of the Bible. Conclusion? Not any significant change in meaning in the small deviations found. That is 2 millenia of perfect preservation. The manuscripts also confirmed the prophecies regarding Christ were in fact written before Christ’s time. The chances of these prophecies all being fulfilled in one person are astronomical.
D. Name one contradiction in the Bible.
There are some better answers for you, hopefully.
A blind man will never see. Slip into the velvet nothingness. The space between life/death. If you emerge, you will know. Until then, it is empty speculation.
No - not ALL Christians do say this as you suppose. Ever since our greatest Grandparents [Adam & Eve] told God that they have decided to follow the route of independence by their actions of disobeying God’s request to not eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
God simply said to them - go your own way and do your own thing. Thus, they made the decision for the human race to pursue the course of independence, opposed to listening to God and retaining their relationship with Him in the Garden of Eden where they had it made in the shade. God therefore, threw them out of Eden. Since that time, God gives all humans the right to be wrong. God exercises a hands off policy and intervenes when and where it suits His devine plan for mankind. This plan will finally be completed when Jesus Christ returns to the earth to salvage it before it is totally destroyed by our kind. It very well might not sit with you the "free will " thing that is, but then again, God does give people the right to be wrong.
It’s not the Ace of Spades. It is the wild-card. It’s not an argument winner. It helps to put facts in a realistic perspective.
Person A - Why does god allow hurricanes, tsunamis, and miscarriages?
Christian - He controls nature. Haven’t you heard?
Person B - Why does god allow his creations which he loves so much to suffer for eternity in hell?
Christian - Those who hate God are not esteemed with honor nor given salvation.
Person C - How come the stories from the bible are so similar to other stories from other religions that existed long before christianity?
Christian - Any person can write a religion. Is that religion true? Christians test the evidence.
Person D - If the bible is supposed to be god’s written word, why are there so many contradictions?
Christian - Perceived contradictions can be remedied when they are put in their proper contextual perspective.
Madmartigan- Why does Samuel L Jackson play in so many movies? And why doesn’t god cure hemorrhoids?
Christian - Samuel L. Jackson obviously has a good agent. And, sometimes people themselves can be a pain in the ass.
Having a debate with a Christian is like trying to have an interactive conversation with a Chatty Cathy doll. You can keep pulling the string as many times as you want but, no matter what your question is, you’re always gonna get one of the same 3 or 4 pre-recorded responses back.
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